Be sure to try several listening locations. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. You can post now and register later. I built him a set of MTM's and delivered them for Christmas. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. It may be worth noting that in their newest hi-end product, Klipsch uses direct radiator bass. heard them, though. ok .. point taken .. whaddabout the EV 350t biradial ..?? As everyone says, a lot depends on the room, especially with Khorns. 290 driver: 116 dB SPL. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. It has a more open, natural-sounding midrange and is highly detailed with less horn coloration and listener fatigue. trouble is , they were both working, and then at a later time the horn was not working on one of them. In picking out a speaker, I would rank extended listening as much more important than spec sheets, or even independent testing. i can perfectly visualize what you are describing thank you for taking the time to help me understand something that maybe fundimental to others. Dr. Mbius - Dee is right. Upload or insert images from URL. WebSet of 2 Two Vintage Altec Lansing A7 Speakers Wood Cabinets . The driver on my 511B horn is the Altec 808-8a CD. i can perfectly visualize what you are describing thank you for taking the time to help me understand something that maybe fundiment true obstructions (like the side of a bookcase, or other furniture 4 I can't wait to hear this setup! They are making new ones for original Altec tools. Secondly, the altecs easliy go down to 30hz. Sorry for that , but I cant agree . It won't interfere with the woofer at all. " Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala Altec Much better bass than the A7 cabinet. I tested them using some Altec CDs and also K-55 and Selenium D-250X. []. Discussion in 'Speakers' started by SixCats!, Dec 20, 2006. Just a fun debate for me. i'm currently using the one built as a drop in replacement for LaScala. The "little" A8 is a sleeper. Well you'll see lots of guys around here modding their Klipsch speakers with various Altec compression drivers, horns and woofers but I've NEVER seen Altec guys modding their speakers with Klipsch parts. I can't listen to the Klipsch for very long periods of time on SS. Regarding the 511 change I have a split center, I think I am going to by a single horn and build a new HF box for it to A/B and decide from there. Altec horn numbers give you a hint to the low frequency cut off of the horn. You can build better new for under $700 a pair plus rational-size DIY cabs. :yes: http://community.klipsch.com/forums/p/91402/1318610.aspx, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I noticed you used JBL drivers in your Belles. The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency You cannot paste images directly. And that was with the K-55 driver mated to it. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. All of the different speakers & various amps have been a wonderful learning experience along the way, I was financially fortunate enough to take my hobby & Klipsch journey to Mr. Pauls final creation,. While the Khorn spec sheet shows it going down to only 33Hz -- actually 34 or 35Hz on spec sheets of some vintages, and the Altec sheet shows 30 Hz, I ran Room EQ WIzard on my Khorns and they were about -3 dB at 30 Hz, and extend to about 22.5 Hz at - 10 dB. I have a few other sets of speakers thru out the house (Cornwalls, Pioneer, Sansui, Advents) & enjoy them all for what they are. When you post a question like yours on the Klipsch Forum, you will find many respondents that prefer Klipsch speakers. I have never heard the 19 pitted against the Khorn, but I agree that it is a very good speaker. Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be? Interesting. What are the physical dimmensions for the horn. This website and its contents are copyright 2020 KCK Media Corp. All rights reserved. Quote Chris A Heritage Members 9.7k Location: Arlington, Texas, USA This article was originally published in audioXpress, September 2020. Sectoral horns only available for the A7's. I don't know about the 811, but I had a 511 that I was using in place of the K-400 in my La Scala's, and it was night and day better than the K-400. Well said Gary. Very objective reply. tc technical data seem to indicate the Jubs would be better. Paste as plain text instead, No mean feat. Just sent an email to my friend. Spec sheets are not as helpful as they sometimes seem. Although we have industrial La Scalas now and having sold our K-horns recently, my wife and were pleasantly surprised by how little space they actually occupy when nudged into long wall corners (in our case, 21 feet apart). You didn't specify in your posting what particular Klipsch speakers you are thinking of, and most respondents have referred to various herita Yeh. By Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. I still think the best driver for the Khorn is the later K55V or K55M. 1 watched in the last 24 hours. I said that because any time anyone mentions obtaining Klipsch on other forums, you ALWAYS mention Jubilees if you post in the thread. Of couse, I am wasting my breath on a Klispch forum typing thishaha. Which midrange horn images the best this can result in this site earning a commission. Materion Truextent makes replacement diaphragms, http://alteclansingunofficial.nlenet.net/publications/techletters/AN-11_EnclosurePlans.pdf. 811B Horns - Technical/Restorations - The Klipsch Audio I say LaScala, or Klipschorn because you say 400 horn. However- Please. Scaling it up for a 15" woofer would be a very interesting project. I have owned all the Heritage series except the Bella's & the Chorus, In my listening room (without good corners & several other undesirable architectural traits, the Jubs have given me the best performance. Thank you, man! That would be like saying that you disagree that we are on planet earth. Powered by Invision Community. Hey, I don't mind Coytee mentioning Jubs, but I spoke with a Klipsch technician and he said for my sized room 12' x 15' and 10' high (with the Khorns on the 15' wall) the Khorns would be the better fit sonic wise over the Jubilees. Clear editor. Powered by Invision Community. Many may know that I've been building for about 35 years. You won't regret it! The owner had used them with 311-90 horns and some 288's. It takes me about a month of really careful listening and comparison to really get over this novelty effect and come to an understanding of what each pair of speakers really sounds like. I would like to get one of these bass cabinets, mount a 511B You didn't specify in your posting what particular Klipsch speakers you are thinking of, and most respondents have referred to various heritage models, chiefly the Klipschorn. Altec The difference between A5 and A7 is the HF horn: the former uses one of the multi cells, the latter the sectoral type horn. You're in denial. Thus even Altecs and JBLs that used direct-radiating woofers had much of the midrange horn-loaded. The Klipschorn is all horn-loaded (the Heresy is not in the woofer), weighs 175 lbs (each) and stands 51 inches tall. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Some call them plug uglies, but I could care less when I am listening, for me its all about the reproduction of music. Bloody awesome info! it sounds ultimately good and accurate. Altec Model 19 vs . Klipschorn - The Klipsch Audio Community Having heard both in a number of different rooms and setups,The Klipschorn is more room dependent and Amplifier dependent than the Altec 19s. When the room is Big and Khorns are in Proper Corners and you have good tube amplification the Klipschorns will smoke the Altec 19s. Both companies make speakers lots of people like. I hope you are aware the A7 is an industrial looking box intended to be custom finished for residential use. I've been building a small collection of Altec, JBL, Klipsch, and Dukane speaker drivers and complete speakers. Price: US $4,000.00. Fast transients, no power compression, amazing detail and dynamics, vs. mush for reflex..yuck. Here's the 1953 plans. 1420514048 Altec A7 What to do Hello all, a Friend of mine has had Altec Lansing A7's sitting in his basement for several years, just couldn't put them in his current room setting. I had to "eq" the tar out of it just to get it to go flat up to 7500 Hz where I crossed it over to the tweeter. The power supply for the Gradient active crossover was not included, so I am awaiting a new one that should arrive next week. Best Offer: WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Set of 2 Two Vintage Altec Lansing A7 Speakers Wood Cabinets at the best online prices at eBay! You may want to slack off a little, so your positive comments regain an appropriate level of credence. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. ', Sorry for that , but I cant agree . Klipsch Khorn or Altec Lansing model 19 If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Items must be returned in original, as-shipped condition with all original packaging.Learn More. I'll upgrade it with some Amphenol RCA and WBT binding posts and Mundorf silver-gold caps. ). sounding Altec A7 Voice of the Theater VOTT speakers for PA / band use or LARGE audiophile home audio system. glad to hear you are enjoying the Altecs. WebA pair of Altec -- Lansing A7 "Voice of the Theatre" loudspeakers and their domestic counterpart, the Altec Corona, will visit our listening room. both 811 and 511 sound far better than K-400. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. Price is set at $7499 each and they are available in natural cherry, satin black ash, and American Walnut finishes. Yes, the 511 takes up the entire top front of the LaScala. Shoot, even as good as they sound now, I am still anxious to try other amps & other fine tuning experiments, just my nature. Clear editor. In at least one pitting of the Altec A7 against the Khorn, the Khorn had considerably better very high frequency response, even though both did not extend much beyond 15K Hz. Just a side comment. though there are other issues to resolve, a new pair of Jubilee's might actually cost you less than a new pair of Khorns (and perhaps sound better) Might at least be worth investigating. They pioneered two way design and were the industry standard in recording studios for years. One nice thing about this dilemma is that if you buy used speakers of this quality at a reasonable price, you can live with them for a few months or years and get most or all of your money out of them when you sell them. On 1/20/2005 8:40:10 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: Guys, The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a I like hustling up nice horns at a good price and I'm really less concerned about the specific brand. Paste as plain text instead, I've used tractrix mid horn replacements in my vintage Khorns and now in my LaScalas. Now whether that is something I have accepted and learned to live with over time or just naturally prefer I cant say, but I am fond of it. Please check the fields highlighted in red. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. [:-*] It is not the only hammer in the toolbox. $178.24 for 24 months with PayPal Credit* Buy It Now. First let me say my post ( Mdl 19 is a two way, perhaps we should be comparing it to the Klipsch The bass is routed out of the front, up and down each side and not the back. If someone is contemplating new Khorns then I think they might want to know about the Jubilee's. Klipsch Klipschorn AK6 loudspeaker Page Absolutely not.what a silly question.[] You can post now and register later. Altec specs are also not necessarily useful. Klipsch vs Altec - Audiokarma Home Audio Stereo Fits standard Altec Drivers 1.4 3-bolt Dimensions 37 1/2" W x 19" H x 31" D Weight 30.5 lbs each unpacked. Some of you talk about the 19s as tho they were the A7 voice of the theaters. This is a sample of Klipsch's Flagship speaker displayed on their website! I don't pretend to presume that just because you don't care to hear about them that someone else that (might not know about them) doesn't. he builds a couple of different size tractrix horns. Good condition items function properly but may exhibit some wear and tear. I would like to try a K-55/511b combo running them down to 400 Hz. dkalsi Their top of the line residential unit at the time was the Laguna, with two 803B LF drivers and a 511B horn with 802D HF driver. Klipsch makes an awful lot of speakers. the Amazon Associates Program via amazon.com. I have consistently found that I 'like" whatever is new in my listening room. Posted January 20, 2005. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. In my personal opinion the K-horn is , as I ca. Alas, those of us saddled by SWMBO and WAF to the K-400 must still seek nervana! exactly. Thats why the Altec / Klipsch combo works best BUT, the model 19s are great full range speakers and technically they extend lower and higher than the khorn. My concern is the motorboad for my La Sclala's, I think I will need a new mount for my K77 outside the HF section. Altec spec sheets show 30hz- 20khz freq response, Khorns show 33hz- 17khz. No for the reason above. Upload or insert images from URL. Altec Voice of the Theatre on thevintageknob.org Just something different often sounds better at first. It has much more bass than the Heresy, is more on the Khorn, there is plenty of room on to the side of the tractrix horn for just about any tweeter you'd want to use. Hey! (You must log in or sign up to reply here. 811 sounds just like 511 but 511 has a higher cutt-off frequency. The crossovers are ALK designed.The speakers are currently equipped with K-401 horns and K-55 drivers.I am thinking about switching to Altec 811B horns and 808 8A drivers.Can I do this without modifing the crossovers? Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. They're also smaller (at least, not as tall as) the Comparing Altecs to 3 way vs. 2 way Anyway, I'm intrigued about what you said regarding changing/upgrading the mid squawker in the Khorn. Owned and used a pair of 1974 Cornwalls for a decade. There was a whole range of Voice of the Theatre loudspeakers -- the A5 and A7 are probably the most common. I'm also thinking about replacing the T-35 tweeters with Beyma CP-25s. It's fine when when within the scope of purchase, but when brought up all the time, and recommended for consideration when thousands over budget, multiple friends have indicated in passing that excessive Klipsch shilling is almost as bad as the Bose bashing. View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. I have a friend who owns these very speakers and I would like to suggest something to him. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Add to cart. Sorry. List price was $599; list price of the A7 was $299.40. Your link has been automatically embedded. Although I have had Khorns sound good Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. I know you'll enjoy the process of getting a new pair of these legendary speakers! In listening to the A7 in one corner, and the Khorn in the other, I felt the Khorn was warmer and brassier, while the A7 was colder. I haven't They have the most advanced crossovers which are really fine tuned for the drivers. I currently own both. They both do differnt things well. I have to say that if I put the amount of money into the Altecs that I have in Does it have to do with the dispersion properties of the horns? Got rid of them quickly after I got a pair of 846A Valencias. Enjoy my friends, now back to our Altec mdl. Been using 511b/902-16a on top of 75' Cornwall bins. I'd planned on building a new motorboard to use with it, but was moving into a place that could not accommodate Khorns, so didn't go further with that project. Happy to say more about the Jubs guys. This article explains what we need to know about these speakers that are still highly sought-after with many still in use in cinemas. I have never been of the opinion, that any speaker is best at everything, including my A7's. The difference is likely lower distortion of the Khorn. But the RFs cross at 2000hz and even higher. It's as if the 511 was made for it! http://archives.telex.com/archives/EV/Speakers/EDS/Sentry III Series II EDS.pdf, http://www.leesound.com/bw_photos/page4.htm, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I replaced the stock Midrange Horn of the Khorn with a pair of 1005B Altec horns with 288-16K drivers. This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. excellent in a small room and in a big room, word of mouth and 4) Paul Klipsch ran curves of the Altec A7 v.s. both the La Scala and the Klipschorn in the '60s. They are reproduced somewhere on this forum. $12,000), the finish DOES matter to a significant degree. I could see the term being used to loosely describe a horns sound signature, in the same manner as I ascribe to "forward" as also describing an efficient, horn loaded system. Klipschorn AK6 Offers Improved Performance Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by murphythecat, Oct 17, 2016. For two rather It is not the only hammer in the toolbox. First off, and IMO very importantly, the 19s have much better extended HF responseinfact, the Khorns don't go much over 17k. My experiences have found them a little too bright and crisp. It will! Altec A7 Voice of the Theater VOTT Speakers - Altec horns Even our host has spoken at length about horn shout on this very forum. different takes on what might be a good approach, explore the posts by WebSomething that needs to be mentioned is that the Altec A5, A6 and A7 use the same main cabinets, the 828. Which is why, I have a preference for running multiple systems at the same time, When I am running my A7's with tube amplification, I am also running two other systems with conventional designed tower speakers, powered by solid state amps.
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